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Koronin [Koronin] Monday 23.Apr 00:24, 2018
LOL, well Bardet did finally graduate from college, so know he should have time to do some TT training. Plus Bardet has actually finished on the podium the last two years at the Tour.

Koronin [Koronin] Monday 23.Apr 00:23, 2018
No, there's more to it than just frustration. If it was frustration only he's more likely to give a long rant to the Spanish media than he is to refuse to talk to them. Also the cramping wouldn't have done it either as he talked to the media after Lombardia two years ago when he was cramping worse than he was today. He started cramping in that right withing 5k of the start. The only other time he's refused to talk to the media was the stage at the Giro were he had bad altitude sickness. In that case he actually called a reporter that he's known for years to give an interview to several hours later. Today he's chosen instead to use his twitter account to talk directly to his fans.

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Monday 23.Apr 00:19, 2018
To be fair they will beat Bardet. Landa and Quintana do train their TT a little bit :D

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Monday 23.Apr 00:18, 2018
Perhaps it was just frustration at what happened. Maybe it just got to him and he reacted badly to it. Who knows.

Koronin [Koronin] Monday 23.Apr 00:17, 2018
No it's not. We all know they are a team of climbers, but they are most definitely back to taking this to extremes. They also aren't going to beat Bardet and AG2R or Orica with the Yates twins and Chaves, or even more specifically they are never going to beat Nibali and Barhain with a team of nothing but climbers. Nibali has got a very nice team built around him at Barhain. To think that Ion Izagirre and Visconti were trying to talk Valverde into going with them to that team.

Koronin [Koronin] Monday 23.Apr 00:15, 2018
Assassin, LOL, although I doubt it. He's usually more than happy to sprint for lower placings. He's done it way too many times. This was really strange. Then add to that his flat out refusal to talk to the media (which is rare also) and the fact he only briefly spoke to some of his fans without taking pictures or singing anything. That's even more unusual because he loves talking to his fans. Although he did get on twitter to directly address his fans. Esp when he's said multiple times to his fans if you see me anywhere, at races, at the beach, a restaurant out shopping, stop me, say hi. I want to talk you. So yeah, the entire end of this is highly strange.

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Monday 23.Apr 00:14, 2018
And agree with Andy here, signing 4000000 climbers isn't going to help them beat the Sky Train :D

Koronin [Koronin] Monday 23.Apr 00:11, 2018
Movistar is going to implode at the Tour and if Valverde's response to today's race is any indication, he has no intention on even trying to prevent it from happening. Also reading between the lines of what he said today, the only race left this year that he seems to have his sights set on are the Worlds and that he has no intention on being anywhere near any kind of peak for Tour. Truthfully I wouldn't be shocked if he's not particularly in race shape for it either.
Andy, they definitely haven't replaced those two riders and didn't even appear to try to. I hope they do something different next off season because this week was a disaster.

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Monday 23.Apr 00:08, 2018
Perhaps he's been watching too much Cavendish, Cav's classic situp because I don't quite have the legs trick.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 22.Apr 23:59, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Movistar has failed to replace Castroviejo and Sutherland, they were important to control the races. All riders signed to this year is true climbers except of Castrillo who isn't really on WT level yet. They need to get more rouleurs before next season and can see the disaster of 3 captain in TdF already with not good enough team on the flats.

Koronin [Koronin] Sunday 22.Apr 23:42, 2018
Assassin, true about the management, but it's now trickled down to where it's obvious with the riders.
Also Alejandro flat out refused to talk with any media. The only "media" he's even willing to talk with right now is the team's PR dept to put information on their website. Then he choose to talk directly to the fans through his social media account where the only mention of this race at all is congratulating the winner of the race. He talked about several other things including that he's satisfied with how his return to racing has turned out.
This is the first time I have ever seen him just sit up at the end of a race and not even try for a result. He's usually the one rider who will sprint for very low placings and annoy other riders by doing that. Today it looked like he not only didn't care but actually completely lost interest in the end of the race.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 22.Apr 23:35, 2018
He was hoping a small group would go in pursuit. But don't think many of them if any (apart from maybe Alaphilippe) had any more to give. Although the weather was perfect the race seemed harder than it has been for the last few years anyway. A fact bourne out by how few riders finished within a couple of minutes of the winner.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 22.Apr 23:21, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
I mean very hard to get him back when he first got the gap and with Alaphillippe in the group playing the role Fränk had in 2009 it was very hard to anybody not in Quick Step to win the race. I always like riders who race for the win, but when the win is impossible it's not about doing most attacks on the flat to try to get a few seconds down to the group and then lose it all on St-Nicolas and Ans.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 22.Apr 23:19, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Wasted energy to chase down Jungels ;)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 22.Apr 23:16, 2018
He did. But someone had too. Quick -Step rode a very canny race.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 22.Apr 23:09, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
He wasted energy of that, don't think he would have had the necessary left to the final, but indeed his best race this season.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Sunday 22.Apr 21:58, 2018
By far a seasons best ride from Dan Martin. Tried to close Jungels down at least three times. Think he would have been on the podium had he not had a mechanical. More to come for sure.

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Sunday 22.Apr 20:59, 2018
I think we have known Movi a disaster (In terms of management at least) for quite a while to be honest.

Koronin [Koronin] Sunday 22.Apr 20:41, 2018
Well we have learned that Movistar is a disaster and doesn't have any real support for Alejandro. This team is going to implode in the Tour.
Alejandro said he started cramping about halfway through this race. He also said that's it for the first part of the season. He's satisfied with how he's comeback has gone. He said now he's going home, going to celebrate his birthday and then take his family on vacation and that he doesn't want to see a bike for the next month.

goon1221 [] Sunday 22.Apr 17:10, 2018
4th Winter Fantasy Overall
Riiiight... same reason I put Hagen on 80 only in Jura :D

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 22.Apr 17:09, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
That's why them are winning!

goon1221 [] Sunday 22.Apr 17:08, 2018
4th Winter Fantasy Overall
And you couldn't pick non of them Andy ?? What the hell is wrong with you man :D
PS. Joking :))

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 22.Apr 16:53, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
First Wirtgen in Jura and now Bob. Unreal day :D

goon1221 [] Sunday 22.Apr 16:50, 2018
4th Winter Fantasy Overall
Quick step win 27 this season .... WOW

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 22.Apr 16:39, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Peloton not learned anything from 2009

goon1221 [] Sunday 22.Apr 16:39, 2018
4th Winter Fantasy Overall
Anyone got Jungels ? Andy?

goon1221 [] Sunday 22.Apr 10:43, 2018
4th Winter Fantasy Overall
Bahrain is the best team here ... but can they dispose it properly? .... I guess Nibali is the protected one, but we all know he will wanna get rid of Valverde, Alaphilippe and Matthews, so the question is, what's their plan "b" ....? Looks like it could be anyone of them ... maybe Gasparotto with the best sprint .... ?

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Sunday 22.Apr 10:30, 2018
No Lotto-Soudal, Sky or Bahrain for me - if I just picked one from any of those teams it’d been the wrong one :)

goon1221 [] Sunday 22.Apr 09:29, 2018
4th Winter Fantasy Overall
Starless G ? .... weird .... I mean, Poels is way from his top level after injury, Kwiato is clearly out of shape ( that came sudden :D ), and Henao is not what he once was ( 11th in de Huy was not half bad though ) ... still, in my point of view, G is SKY's best option .....

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 21.Apr 20:34, 2018
G for Sky. Race is made for him.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 21.Apr 20:15, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Pellizotti, Lambrecht and Wisniowski

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Gregari] Saturday 21.Apr 19:25, 2018
If someone can please tell me who Bahrain, Lotto-Soudal and Sky will ride for - that would be much appreciated :)

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Saturday 21.Apr 17:14, 2018
Startlist Final

Koronin [Koronin] Saturday 21.Apr 01:09, 2018
I'm still going with my boy as captain. Why wouldn't I?

goon1221 [] Friday 20.Apr 13:36, 2018
4th Winter Fantasy Overall
I will go with Nibali for this one :)) as captain ....

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Friday 20.Apr 09:57, 2018
26th Winter Fantasy Overall
Few jokers won't hurt GC that much

goon1221 [] Friday 20.Apr 09:16, 2018
4th Winter Fantasy Overall
Jelle Vanendert still without star ... a while since he was a mentioned top 5 candidate .... although, I mentioned him pre Flèche in a private discussion .... see, this is the downside with the season GC game.... it's full of cowardice :D

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