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Assassin [Troy The Trader] Wednesday 12.Dec 20:33, 2018
I think he's after a baked Potato which is also known as Dan Martin when he cracks.

Tomas [Second Coming] Wednesday 12.Dec 20:08, 2018
9th Winter Fantasy Overall
Well, since you collect for an untouched eye wierd potatos, its kind of hard to identify whitch of my potatos you are after, that will actually fit your collection..

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 12.Dec 19:45, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Re-sign my potato rider or not?

Tomas [Second Coming] Wednesday 12.Dec 19:45, 2018
9th Winter Fantasy Overall
My whole team fixed for 2019. People kicked, and re signings left, right and center.

Kristian-K [Green Bullet Cycling] Wednesday 12.Dec 19:11, 2018
Delaplace, Navardauskas, Van Genchten, Pantano and Clement didn't get and extension for 2019 and will join the draft for the upcoming season

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Wednesday 12.Dec 19:08, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
He only knows what MMS is

Tomas [Second Coming] Wednesday 12.Dec 17:17, 2018
9th Winter Fantasy Overall
Remember to congratulate Steinvik on his last exam today this semester - if you guys suddenly have become SMS buddies ;)

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Wednesday 12.Dec 17:04, 2018
Bendit and Steinvik confirmed as continuing! Have emailed Neko #KjeppenMinuttForMinutt

Tomas [Second Coming] Wednesday 12.Dec 14:45, 2018
9th Winter Fantasy Overall
Considering renaming the game using your wording; the greatest dynasty cycling game ever :)


Contact data for neko sent on PM.

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Wednesday 12.Dec 14:01, 2018
I've texted Steinvik and stig who I regard as the only Norwegian participants I'm not 100% are competing for 2019 yet.

Anyone have contact details for neko? Tomas?

Given positive responses it looks like no teams leaving and two new Spanish amigos in. Just awaiting these responses before returning with a pre-draft suggestion.

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Sunday 9.Dec 23:59, 2018
Andy - your current teams is one of the most random ever compiled by a manager trying to compete for victory and not just4bantz. I would be willing to offer Fire engine, except he's higher class than Pitchie.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Sunday 9.Dec 23:37, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
When can I terminate the contract to Porte? ;)

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Sunday 9.Dec 23:11, 2018
Cordi3 - just send me messages with any questions you might have.

Short summary - I've worked about 350 hours overtime this year, a significant part of which has been in the last few months, nicely coinciding with the off-season if nothing else. I've recently been moved to a new position which means this is no longer necessary and finally ready to turn focus fully over to FC and 2019 :) Even considering living more cleanly in 2019 - though perhaps my propensity for tipsyness isn't fully tied in with strain from work ;)

I will be getting fully up to speed and posting specifics over the next few days. Will be analyzing the phrasing of Francisco's press release in particular to suss out which Port wine and Fado has put him in this trascendent state to replicate it myself :)

Cordi3 [Cordi3] Wednesday 5.Dec 15:22, 2018
Hi, thanks for warn me.
I'm in, a little lost with the procese but in.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Monday 3.Dec 14:22, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Looking forward to get the case out of the world. Also told Porte the coming season will be his final in my team unless he manage to buy himself out of it before the season starts, which seems very unlikely.

Francisco [K92-Team Neverland] Monday 3.Dec 13:29, 2018
AEON FLUX, SELENE Associates
K92-Team Neverland (Press Realease 3)

We are, from this date on, the Team's representatives in both areas, Law and Administration.
Our first mission will be at International Courts to represent our client in Mrs Kalinka's Process. We strongly advice Mr Andy from Lux Finest Team, to arrange more than Porte to get a proper support from his lawyer...

Regarding Administration, we want to inform the SF community and Monsieur Le Partykjeppen, in particular, that Mads Wurtz Schimdt will no longer remain with K's Team.
This was a very difficult decision and despite we fear we will see some kind of "Mike Teunissen's dejá vu situation", the Team needs to increase her budget to try to keep competitive.

The Dane will join Mosca and Guardini in departures.
McCarthy is also leaving but in a deal with Cycling Lions, involving Keukeleire.

Powless, Halvorsen and Planckaert will see their contract renewed.
Contract Renewals and Wage Increases will be public in the following weeks.

Mrs Aeon Flux and Mrs Selene,
K92-Team Neverland Representatives

P.S. goon1221 [BMC] Monday 29.Oct 21:47, 2018
9th FC-manager overall - 10th FC-manager last 6 weeks
Does this game includes insanity or does it comes along with it ? :D:D

So, what are you waiting for, goon?.. :)

Remi [LSK Cycling] Sunday 18.Nov 10:59, 2018
12th Winter Fantasy Overall
New contract

Barbero 20
Finetto 15
Ganna 10
L Hamilton 3
C Hamilton 4
Pardini 8
Simion 6
Nizzolo 40
All 2020

New wage
Ballerini 8

Bye bye
Benfatto
Busato
Felline
Marini
Modolo
Valverde
Vendrame

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Wednesday 7.Nov 22:21, 2018
14th Winter Fantasy Overall
New wages :

Dupont (2020) : 16
Kuss (2020) : 12
Ciccone (2020) : 14

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Tuesday 6.Nov 23:55, 2018
I'm at the sweet spot where I want the pie distributed evenly, but also want it maximized so that every slice is as big as possible.

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Tuesday 6.Nov 23:51, 2018
5th Winter Fantasy Overall
"If you steal from someone who doesn't have any draft picks left, they get the chance to steal back from you or sign an unattached rider"

A clarification here; it is the original last round draft pick that counts, not counting traded draft picks.


"... level the playing field..."
You vote for the Labour party, don't you? They also have this "everyone should be equal" philosophy. The direct consequence of such a change is that stupid choices are punished less, and I assume that is also the intention.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Tuesday 6.Nov 23:05, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
"January 5th - 23:59 (Luxman needs timestamp so he can post a minute prior to it): "

I wasn't even the one who posted the latest in last window..

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Tuesday 6.Nov 23:02, 2018
Hi,

Good to see so many of you eager and posting updates to your teams already, much appreciated.

As far as I'm concerned the following is set in stone for 2019:

Timing of drafts:
January 5th - 23:59 (Luxman needs timestamp so he can post a minute prior to it):
Deadline for trades
Deadline for renewing contracts expiring in 2018 and extensions/wage increases of up to four contracts not ending in 2018
January 11th - 12th: Winter draft

Summer draft will be 7th-8th of June with contract and trade deadline a few days earlier.

Number of draft picks:
8 in the winter, 5 in the summer

All the current rules will apply:
Riders who were on an expiring contract and was renewed can't be traded in the winter window
Riders can be stolen by doubling their current salary, quadrupling if U23-status
If you steal from someone who doesn't have any draft picks left, they get the chance to steal back from you or sign an unattached rider
If you want to extend the contract of a rider, you have to add at least 15% of current wage for a one year-extention, 25% for two years. This is always rounded up if the number has a decimal (use the CEILING(..;1)-function in Excel, my broz).

Still not landed:
Whether anyone is leaving
If anyone else than our two new Iberian homies are joning
Whether we should set a higher minimum squad size than 20 given it's 23(?) in 2019 for WT-teams.

I totally see your point regarding different strategies and setting competitive wages will allow you to maintain a squad close to the max-size, EPO. On the other hand, the spririt of the game is for us to make mock WT-teams, so bringing us closer to those regulations makes sense to me.

If we raise the minimum squad size to 23, it would bring us in line with the current regulation and also level the playing field a bit more given that bigger squad size has meant more points in general so far?

We can do a quick straw poll, first one of yay/nay to get five votes wins.

I'll intensify work on checking up on existing plus new managers so we can decide on how to bring new managers in. Probably like in previous instances with a pre-draft and then with more picks than the rest of us in the main draft - but depends on number of managers entering and leaving.

I _almost_ have a promotion in place which should mean less less overtime and more FC, so posting a bit erratically until it's over the line :)

zKobalt [FruitnOats] Tuesday 6.Nov 01:13, 2018
Has the squad sizes for 2019 been confirmed yet?

sylvainm [sylvainm] Thursday 1.Nov 20:59, 2018
lutsenko and banaszek are open for trades proposals for me

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Thursday 1.Nov 17:05, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
This seems as credible as our Bananito-deal

Nathan [CT Glory] Thursday 1.Nov 16:05, 2018
Sure thing

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Thursday 1.Nov 16:04, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Only if it includes all Germans on your team

Nathan [CT Glory] Thursday 1.Nov 16:00, 2018
Soooooo ,Marcel Kittel guys. Who wants to make a deal? :D

goon1221 [BMC] Tuesday 30.Oct 16:38, 2018
17th Winter Fantasy Overall
No fear here :D ... just like to mock you guys a little bit every now and then :D

Tomas [Second Coming] Tuesday 30.Oct 16:16, 2018
9th Winter Fantasy Overall
"Fear of missing out" I reckon.

Did a mini update - removed links to season fantasy on all race-related pages for all users not having an user-id connected to a season fantasy team.

goon1221 [BMC] Tuesday 30.Oct 16:11, 2018
17th Winter Fantasy Overall
FOMO ?

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Tuesday 30.Oct 15:11, 2018
Goon join, and find out. You know you want to. No point in suffering from FOMO. :)

zKobalt [FruitnOats] Tuesday 30.Oct 11:01, 2018
FruitnOats (Press Release)

The DS is announcing the following releases. We wish these riders well with continuing to help their opposition by riding on the front of the peloton.

Roberto Fiat (not Ferrari)
Atapuma
Backaert
Brandle
Feillu
Kreder
Armee
Gaudin


Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Monday 29.Oct 22:24, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
I have already contacted my lawyer to prove innocent of these ridiculous charges. As payment the lawyer demanded Porte for 2019

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Monday 29.Oct 21:50, 2018
14th Winter Fantasy Overall
Aragonite : Nothing. Nathan is hallucinating.

goon1221 [BMC] Monday 29.Oct 21:47, 2018
17th Winter Fantasy Overall
Does this game includes insanity or does it comes along with it ? :D:D

Francisco [K92-Team Neverland] Monday 29.Oct 21:16, 2018
K92-Team Neverland (Press Release 2)

We want to announce that Andrea Guardini will no longer be part of this great team.
We are very disapointed with him because with today's result Team K will change places with Nibalies Team and will be one place down on January's Draft.
Totally unaccepted, specially from a rider who did nothing during all the season.

We also want to announce Jacopo Mosca departure. In his case nothing to point on his behaviour, only poor performence and high wage.
He will be a free rider next season and, together with Guardini, they will represent 28 profit in K's budget.

P.S. We also want to make public our discontent with Lux Finest Team DS, Andy, regarding Ms Kalinka affair.
Last summer we were close to get her in our office and Andy's interference ruined the deal
Now, all this off season burocratic work is made by our DS instead of that gorgeous... i mean... efficient office worker.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Monday 29.Oct 18:57, 2018
What did Raim do wrong?

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Monday 29.Oct 15:08, 2018
5th Winter Fantasy Overall
These can be traded:
Greipel, Albasini, Cattaneo, Pichon, Jensen, Hardy.

Due to budget issues I can in return take weaker riders who cost less $.

Kristian-K [Green Bullet Cycling] Monday 29.Oct 14:25, 2018
Kruijswijk, Samuel Dumoulin, Holst Enger, Van der Poel, Bol and Owen are all open for trade suggestions

Nathan [CT Glory] Monday 29.Oct 13:44, 2018
Raim betrayed us, he gets a payback.

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Monday 29.Oct 11:40, 2018
14th Winter Fantasy Overall
edit *van Baarle gets 12

LosBrolin [JuhaMieto] Monday 29.Oct 10:53, 2018
14th Winter Fantasy Overall
Released :

Betancur
Kuznetsov
Laengen
Lammertink
Oss
Räim
Reyes
Rosa
Vanendert

Renewed :

Van Baarle 9 / 2019

Extended:

Philipsen 14/2020

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Sunday 28.Oct 23:52, 2018
You're all Premature Primozes, I'm just back from getting quite a bit heavier and dumber (thank you no deal-Brexit insecurity exchange rate) and a lot of business is done already!

I can hereby announce that König, Gatto, Rojas and Blythe can ski to fuck away from Il Piccolo Partykjepps.

Nathan [CT Glory] Sunday 28.Oct 19:23, 2018
Released:
Lars Boom
Luke Durbridge
Marko Kump
Francesco Gavazzi

Renewed:
Victor Campenaerts - 17 - 2019
Hugh Carthy - 10 - 2020

Extended:
Dion Smith - 10 - 2020
Hugo Hofstetter - 15 - 2020
Stan Dewulf - 6 - 2020
Julius Johansen - 5 - 2020

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 27.Oct 21:15, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Can't see any better captains on outgoing contract than a certain on my team.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 27.Oct 19:58, 2018
As long as the newcomers pay sufficient to avoid steals, Sagan and Dumoulin are good team leaders.

boris03 [Cycling lions] Saturday 27.Oct 18:35, 2018
20th Winter Fantasy Overall
I'm pretty sure neko is staying.
For my team:
Bevin 10 (2020)
De Gendt 7 (2019)
Denifl 6 (2019)
Madrazo 5 (2020)
Majka 43 (2020)
McCabe 4 (2020)
Rabitsch 5 (2019)
Antunes 7 (2020)
Sosa 20 (2020)
De La Cruz 12 (2020)
Frank 14 (2019)
Released:
Dumoulin
Mamykin
Craddock
Cummings
Bodnar

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Saturday 27.Oct 17:34, 2018
5th Winter Fantasy Overall
and with 2 spaniards joining thats an extra $800. have to figure out how they should be entered into the game.

boris: is neko staying for 2019? and is dumoulin staying?..

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 27.Oct 16:30, 2018
Quite surprised at that. It makes the initial price Sagan is picked up at very interesting, what with all the spare cash that Assassin will be sitting on.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 27.Oct 15:42, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
You are allowed, I have done that earlier. But you of course take the risk that somebody else takes him before it is your turn

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 27.Oct 15:13, 2018
You will be better off getting his cousin Connor, I'll give you Ben, free of charge. :)Final question, I'm guessing it's not allowed to ditch a rider, then pick them up at a cheaper price as one of your draft picks?

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 27.Oct 14:29, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
Correct. So don't feel safe when you renew Ben Zwifty and I want him on my team after you rejected my trade offer in the summer ;)

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 27.Oct 14:07, 2018
Cheers Andy. And newly contracted riders can be stolen immediately?

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Saturday 27.Oct 14:01, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
You can give a free rider whatever you want. That rule is only when you trade riders.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Saturday 27.Oct 13:55, 2018
Can someone clarify something for me? Has Sagan's new contract got to be 75% of his last wage, or is it just what someone is prepared to pay him? As a newly contracted rider could someone then steal Sagan if they are prepared to double his new wage?

sylvainm [sylvainm] Saturday 27.Oct 10:32, 2018
Renewals for me :

Van der Hoorn - 13$ (2020)

Contracts extensions :

Ackermann - 28$ (2020)
Maciejuk - 3$ (2020)
Bagioli - 4$ (2020)
Gebregzabhier - 5$ (2020)

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Friday 26.Oct 19:35, 2018
He said I looked like Seb Reichenbach and I gave him the choice of leaving the team or getting thrown off of a cliff.

Andy [Luxembourg Finest] Friday 26.Oct 19:33, 2018
3rd Winter Fantasy Overall
What has Sagan done wrong to deserve this treatment?

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Friday 26.Oct 17:38, 2018
Therefore renewals will be:

Manuel Belletti - $15 (2019)
Gianluca Brambilla - $25 (2019)
Simone Velasco - $4 (2020)

And then extensions:
Tadej Pogacar - $23 (2020)
Jan Polanc - $18 (2020)
Damien Touze - $8 (2020)
Kevin Ledanois - $8 (2020)

Assassin [Troy The Trader] Friday 26.Oct 17:27, 2018
To be released for me:

Peter Sagan
Simon Gerrans (2019 contract but now retired, already posted on cancellations thread)
Romain Sicard
Benat Intxausti
Brendan Canty
Marco Marcato
Oscar Sevilla
Ahmet Orken
Markus Eibegger (Retiring but 2018 contract anyway)
Mauricio Ortega
Jose Serpa

sylvainm [sylvainm] Friday 26.Oct 16:29, 2018
Theuns, Mortier, Edmondson and Brochner won't be renewed

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Thursday 25.Oct 00:16, 2018
5th Winter Fantasy Overall
> "We should do a small discussion on number of draft picks in the two windows plus regulations on squad size before opening threads for contract renewals, releases and trades. I'll open that thread in a couple of days unless anyone beats me to it :)"

This is perfect as it is. 8 drafts in the winter and 5 in the summer as usual. And no need to change anything about squad sizes either.
If you want many riders then just make good signings; riders that produce enough points per wage so that their contracts will be worth renewing, while also setting the wages high enough for them not be stolen. This fine balance is a large part of what the game is about. We don't want regulations that remove skill from the game and replaces it with luck... We already have the grand tour fantasy for that.

For starters, I won't be renewing these contracts for 2019:
Maxime Bouet, Vitaliy Buts, Davide Cimolai, Alexander Porsev.

Aragonite [TORA TORA TORA] Wednesday 24.Oct 21:42, 2018
Wish I had kept up with the transfers thread. Looks like it is an hour or two's read now.

Francisco [K92-Team Neverland] Wednesday 24.Oct 17:59, 2018
K92-Team Neverland (Press Release 1)

The first step, we are taking, regarding 2019 season, is contacting Herklotz and Vermote's agents to know if they think they will compete next year.

Team management hopes to be clarified as soon as possible in order to search for alterrnatives.

Regarding renewals and/or contracts extensions and wage increases work has been done, already, and conclusions coming soon.

Francisco, K92-Team Neverland DS

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Monday 22.Oct 23:54, 2018
Hello all,

I have been, and still will be out of FC-mode for a handful of more days due to an intensive period at work soon to be followed by a small vacation. Which will be a perfect opportunity for thinking about season fantasy and the upcoming year. Even though Dusan was raced too lightly this year and Bazhkou has turned out to be a disaster, I like my prospects for 2019 :)

Big congrats to EPO on being the first manager to win two seasons! I will be buying you at least one Bulmer's at a time and place of your choice, though I do hope Hardy's slump continues as to teach you not to steal from me.

As far as new entrants go, Cordi and Josedin have posted/messaged their interest. Are you both decent in English and are aware that in order to participate you are expected to set off Friday-Saturday evening one weekend each in early January and June?

We can fit in two new managers, even if no one leaves. But we should check with all current participants that they're staying on before starting to work on pre-draft-format for new entrants.

For the January-draft we'll do the following:

January 5th - 23:59 (Luxman needs timestamp so he can post a minute prior to it):
Deadline for trades
Deadline for renewing contracts expiring in 2018 and extensions/wage increases of up to four contracts not ending in 2018
January 11th - 12th: Winter draft

Having the pre-draft situation ready almost a week in advance should give everyone ample time to prepare for the draft (Lists! Spreadsheets! Shrines! Pictures of rider's chubby babies!).

We should do a small discussion on number of draft picks in the two windows plus regulations on squad size before opening threads for contract renewals, releases and trades. I'll open that thread in a couple of days unless anyone beats me to it :)

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Monday 15.Oct 20:41, 2018
I'm out of office until this weekend, will be posting then :)

JOSEDIN [SERVA LA BARI] Monday 15.Oct 18:53, 2018
join for 2019

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Monday 1.Oct 00:45, 2018
5th Winter Fantasy Overall
Do we have anyone wanting to leave or join for 2019?

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Thursday 20.Sep 23:33, 2018
5th Winter Fantasy Overall
Logreid; where is my trophy?

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Monday 3.Sep 00:43, 2018
5th Winter Fantasy Overall
It's easier to decide the faith of current riders if you know the outcome of the trading. Looking at my own team, I will have to say goodbye to one rider if 2 deadlines, but with 1 deadline and some smart trading he is likely to stay.

Not a big deal, it's the same for everyone, but it would change the dynamics ever so slightly.

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Monday 3.Sep 00:34, 2018
Deadline for all things contact-y before trading opens, case for: budgets, rosters, wages and contract lengths are all set in stone
Against: less room to swat away threats of steals if you don't agree to trade by increasing wage

The biggest gaping hole for me in the last few windows was that a cascade of wage increases and trades were announced just before the draft opened - rendering quite some research and preparation futile. A 48-hour window from the transfer (and possibly contract) window shutting and draft starting should negate that, at least.

Erythropoietin [Erythropoietin] Monday 3.Sep 00:32, 2018
5th Winter Fantasy Overall
Before the summer draft we have one deadline for everything, here we have two. How about having just one deadline on Jan 9th? Contract renewals would/could be affected by how the trading goes.

Partykjeppen [Il Piccolo Partykjepps] Monday 3.Sep 00:27, 2018
Revised as per typo pointed out by EPO:

Cordi has come forward with a wish to enter a new team. Anyone else fancy their hand?

Any of our existing managers want out of the greatest dynasty cycling game ever?

Probable timeline for winter draft of 2019:
December 31st: deadline for renewing contracts expiring in 2018 and extensions/wage increases of up to four contracts not ending in 2018
January 9th: Deadline for trades
January 11th - 12th: Winter draft

I already have a big-ass list of steals - but hard decisions on whether to extend LLS and Laporte.

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